suddenly you can't cut every part of the defense budget. many parts of that was protected for various reasons. as marty laid out you gut people. and when you gut human capital, you are going to pay a price that can't be caught up for a generation. >> mike: the difference is with sequestration it's there is no discretion. it's just across the board. you just cut everywhere. it's almost like going into an operating room and instead of surgically remove a tumor you say we will remove 20 pounds of flesh out of this body regardless of where it is coming from. that's what this problem is, isn't it. >> it's worse than that instead of giving the leadership the chance to cut $40 billion over the rest of 2013 anywhere they want, there are certain areas, certain programs that cannot be cut. therefore they will have to cut out of what he described as operations and maintenance money. that's what let's the force operate and train. what really let's you take care of people. >> in the peculiar my share of the tank, you talk about your career and also obvi